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        <title>Do Social Networks Need Companies?</title>
        <published>2017-12-22T09:37:51-05:00</published>
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          <name>Kay Rhodes</name>
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        <content type="html" xml:base="https://weblog.masukomi.org/2017/12/22/do-social-networks-need-companies/">&lt;p&gt;I’ve been thinking a lot about &lt;a rel=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;https://scuttlebutt.nz&quot;&gt;Scuttlebutt&lt;/a&gt; lately (see
my &lt;a rel=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;https://weblog.masukomi.org/2017/12/20/why-scuttlebutt/&quot;&gt;Why Scuttlebutt&lt;/a&gt;
post), and &lt;a rel=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;https://mellified.men/@srol&quot;&gt;Srol&lt;/a&gt; just wrote a great post about how
&lt;a rel=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;https://theoutline.com/post/2689/mastodon-makes-the-internet-feel-like-home-again&quot;&gt;Mastodon makes the internet feel like home again&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There’s a lot of good reasons for people to use tools like them for socializing
online, and I don’t want these services to just wither as their users wander
off. I want there to be options that aren’t controlled by large companies, but
at the same time services that require servers (like Mastodon) need someone to
pay for those servers.  And while Scuttlebutt doesn’t &lt;em&gt;need&lt;/em&gt; servers, the “pub”
servers do play an important role. I find myself wondering what is required for
a social network to succeed? Are businesses a critical part of the equation?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think yes, and no. I think sites like &lt;a rel=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;https://www.patreon.com/&quot;&gt;Patreon&lt;/a&gt; its like,
have shown that people are
willing to support the people and projects that are important to them.  So, I
think that from a purely financial standpoint that &lt;em&gt;no&lt;/em&gt; we don’t need the
corporate money to keep these spaces afloat. Also, hosting costs for distributed
systems like this are dirt cheap, and getting cheaper. There are a million
people using Mastodon on servers paid for entirely by people who just feel like
it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;At the same time corporate presence helps with the legitimacy of young networks.
When major businesses establish a presence on a network it reinforces the idea
that this is a “real” place, and that it’ll probably be around for a while.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;From the business perspective, social networks aren’t great for selling things
(instagram ads seeming to be the major exception to this),
but they’re great for supporting your customers and finding like-minded people.
Think, for example about what &lt;a rel=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;https://www.rei.com/&quot;&gt;REI&lt;/a&gt; has done with their
&lt;a rel=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;https://www.rei.com/blog/news/optoutside-will-you-go-out-with-us&quot;&gt;Opt Outside&lt;/a&gt;
campaign.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Small companies, like indie software developers, survive &lt;em&gt;because&lt;/em&gt; of their
social interactions. They can’t afford the big marketing. So they make human
contact, and support their customers, and help them to succeed in their
business, or play, or whatever.  And the customers appreciate it. Many of us
become fantastically loyal to a product or company specifically because of the
social interactions we have with the people behind them.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I look forward to getting on to Scuttlebutt and seeing what new things people
have had to say, just like Srol looks forward to getting on Mastodon. Having to
then switch to Twitter to ask a question of some developer whose software I
use… it’s not hard, but it is a barrier, and it also means i’m going to have
to deal with whatever’s going on “over there”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I love Twitter, but if I’m not speaking with the Esperanto people there I’m
pretty much guaranteed to get stressed out with some new political BS, and
Facebook has always annoyed me.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But, it takes a lot of effort to for a company to have an effective social
presence on a network, all that effort isn’t cheap. There’s got to be a reason
why it’s worth the effort to have a presence there.  They’ll come, if the people
are there, of course, but the question on my mind, is will it help the people to
come, or stay, if the businesses are there?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Do the creators of need to think about how companies could derive value from
their platform? Not for any financial benefit of the creators, but as a tool to
help the platform thrive.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t think McDonalds, for example, being on Twitter devalues the Twitter
experience in any way. I don’t follow them. They don’t affect me. I do think
that the fact the companies I &lt;em&gt;do&lt;/em&gt; care about are on Twitter enhances the
experience for me. Is there a downside to the users to making the network more
useful to those companies?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;To be clear, I am explicitly &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; talking about allowing them to put ads in
front of users, or charge for anything, or directly recognize revenue in any
way. I’m talking about helping them to know that their presence on the network
provides benefit to their company. Maybe it’s just knowing they got the word out
about something important. Maybe it’s supporting their users.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think maybe we should be thinking about the companies, if we want to see these
new networks survive to maturity.&lt;/p&gt;
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